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Speaker Reconing

Anybody here recone their own speakers? I've got 2 Celestion "Custom Design for Line 6" G12P-80's that were given to me by a friend later his friends wife decided to stab a hole in each speaker in the 4x12 cab. The model on the side is "T5235" and they are eight Ohm speakers, apparently just relabeled Lxx fourscore's. I have non been able to find a recone kit for these speakers though and was wondering if I would exist able to just employ a kit from a different model, say a G12M recone kit, to reassemble these speakers. Obviously this will change the tone but I'd like to utilise this to my advantage.

I've seen another choice is to buy the components individually from Ted Weber but since I've never reconed a speaker before, I'thousand a bit weary about retrofitting parts that may need modification. I'd prefer a preassembled drop-in kit merely my Google-fu tells me that these don't exist for Celestion stuff.

The other speaker I'd love to recone is an ancient speaker that I was using for a while with my Express before the dried out cone cracked badly. I didn't pay much for the speaker but it would be great to get information technology fixed, the middy sound of the speaker actually cut through well without existence TOO loud. I'm attaching a few pics of the older speaker although aside a few codes on the speaker and cone, this matter is unlabeled. The label on the edge of the speaker frame says "523464" and on the back of the magnet it says "B-50751", likewise the back of the cone says "1551".

Whatever help is much appreciated :).

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Yeah but there is no mention specifically for Celestion stuff, which obviously is much harder to find parts for. That's really the indicate of this thread, I'd like to know what others experiences are with getting the parts required for Celestion stuff and wanted to see if others know about the interchangeability of the unlike cone/spider/phonation coils between different Celestion G12 series speakers.

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Ah, you're right they don't take anything for Celestians.

You might attempt contacting Weber.

They build the Scumback speakers for Southbay.

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I don't know if you e'er establish a kit for your Celestion Speakers.......anyway, I constitute a visitor (Sound Speaker Repair) that makes drop-in replacement kits for numerous Pro Sound and guitar apps.

Here is a link to asking a kit not shown in their list.

http://www.soundspeakerrepair.com/speak ... not+listed

Look around their main site. Proficient resources, and decent prices for DIY

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If they even so work , it might exist all-time to repair them rather than Recone . Holes , tears and cracks are pretty easy to repair.

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1 has already been repaired, the other has a good 2" ten i/2" chunk taken out from the outer edge of the cone and the surround. This would exist a catchy repair because at the outer edge I demand a flexible still strong glue like E6000 and in the eye I need a stiff glue like a cyanoacrylate (although this is probably besides hard). But maybe I volition attempt a repair first equally neither cone rubs and I'1000 pretty certain the vocalism coils are intact..

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That speaker looks like a dainty Alnico, along the lines of a Jensen p12n. Probably from an organ. Actually that clamper missing on the border does not wait besides bad. You could endeavour building information technology upward with layers of newspaper and the adhesive CE sells for tolex. Or stabilize the edges with elmers. As long as it it does non abound and tear further. If you had a sacrificial cone that matched you could cut a small piece and lay it over with the Tolex glue around the edges. Probably however sound improve than a recone with modern materials.

Every bit for the celestion, Weber seems to have a good choice of parts, like the Kurt Mueller stuff.

And ASW does great work. Ron is a master and Travis is friendly.

If y'all do recone them yourself, CLEAN the gap, so clean once more and again. Likewise, go easy on the glue. I have seen more a few where the glue was so thick it deformed the cone and coil.

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For the older speaker, I need to get with someone more knowledgeable than myself to endeavor to find the right parts for the job. My goal is to practice on the Celestions before I tackle the older speaker. I sympathize the basics behind how to recone a speaker (including keeping that gap Make clean) just I am a student and tend to try to practise things on the inexpensive if I can (i.e. design/build/repair things myself instead of paying others). So possibly I'll talk to the local guy about helping me find the correct parts.

I think Weber is definitely an pick besides, he'south got very reasonable prices for his stuff. I just don't know exactly what to order even so..

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Speaker reconing is not rocket science. You will need some shim textile, to center the vocalization curlicue in the gap. Cleaning the speaker is the hard part. I fabricated myself a gasket scraper from an old butter knife, cut , sharpened and bent but right. A lot of close pins to agree down the border afterwards gluing etc.

I learned from an erstwhile VHS video from WVS I retrieve ,many years ago. Now they want you to join a club before they will tell you how to exercise information technology and sell you parts.

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billyz wrote:Speaker reconing is not rocket science. Yous will need some shim textile, to heart the vox coil in the gap. Cleaning the speaker is the hard part. I made myself a gasket scraper from an one-time butter knife, cut , sharpened and aptitude just right. A lot of close pins to hold down the edge after gluing etc.

I learned from an quondam VHS video from WVS I call back ,many years agone. Now they desire you to join a club before they volition tell you how to do it and sell you parts.

I have reconed too many speakers to count through the years. I have 2 CV 189es, a jbl 2226 and a jbl2123 to do this week for customers. If you are going to do it yourself, please exercise yourself a favor and get a kit that is a "drib in" replacement. The Voice coil and spider and cone come already glued together at the proper alignment and it brand is a lot easier. Some kits supply you with a seperate cone, dust cap, vocalism roll and spider that take to be assembled . Getting the vox curlicue lined up to the proper depth in the gap tin sometimes exist a challenge if y'all have never done ane or don't have the original cone assembly to get past..

I can also retrieve when some manufacturers wanted you lot to come to "their school" to learn how to recone their way. (Some still do) JBL wanted me to pay to wing out to CA and stay a calendar week to go to their school. It was going to run me almost v grand and that was back in the 80s. The internet has made access to the parts a lot amend.

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That's exactly what I'd like to notice for the Celestions, a drop-in kit, just from my googling around I can't find a single identify that sells one! WTF!

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